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German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

"Title edited & now correct"I just collected this one and need some help as regards it's possible country of origin.Before hands on, I'd thought one of the Germanic states or even French. Does it...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Jon, Prussian?? That safety, or a similar safety, was used in the Germanic lands. I am not sure if it was used anywhere else. Having said that, no ramrod could also mean Belgian?? I do like the sexy...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

The arrangements on the lock between the cock and the nipple is that of Wurttemberg, Baden, Hessen-Darmstadt: das Wild'sche neue Buchsensystem. See pp183-190 in Militargewehre und Pistolen der...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Thank you BillI  don't have the book and can't, so far,  find any on line images. Does this type have a model name I could search for?What are the from / to dates for it?The F120 carved into the grip...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

The problem for me is that I bought this book just to use the pictures to get some idea where guns like this come from. As I am completely useless in German that is about all I can say. Not a probable...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Thanks for the information on the proofs Bill. I think I knew that once but I'm sure I now retain less information by the year. As for the book, that's just about where I will be with it Bill.I found...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Kavalleriepistole des Grossherzogstums Hessen-Darmstadt, Modell M 1822/44/56. ( Great Count of Hessen Darmstadt). Has been a flintlock pistol and was refurbished twice. Produced by Pistor in...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Sorry, not correct M 1822/44.The pistol was only refurbished once, from flint to percussion. The second refurbishement was done 1856, when the barrel was rifled, what was not done z to your pistol....

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Danke Hannes. Sehr hilfreich. Schade Ich spreche nur ein bisschen Deutsch. Aber ich verstehe mehr, als ich sagen kann.John(Google translate is your friend, but only if you take the trouble to...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

"The ramrod is absolutely correct. " !!!!Really ! I eat my words in regards to that.The Stock mark is F12o.On the lock by the hammer it could read Ichm... or Ichn...  

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

As you see on the lockplate, there is engraved: Schma........, which is Schmalkalden. The top letter is P...., which is the faint engraving of Pistor. Are there no british proof marks on the barrel?...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Yes there are 2 small London proof marks on the barrel.Thank you for confirming  Schmalkalden   I read the lettering incorrectlyI'd like to edit the title of the post to give a precise description for...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

The absolut correct describtion is "German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM", if later on rifled 1814/44/56 UM. When I locked again on your pistol I realised, that the...

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Re: German States percussion pistol - Pistor of Schmalkalden 1814/44 UM

Thank you all for the information.Bill. I now have the book (delivered in 4 days from Germany for only £4.25). As you say, great pictures but one hell of a good reference source.Jon

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